Episode 24

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21st Jul 2025

The Six Hidden Leaks That Are Bleeding Your Business Dry

Welcome back to Freedom to Exit! In this episode, Lani Dickinson and tech wizard Jeana DeShazer dive deep into the six hidden leaks bleeding your home‑services business dry.

From missed calls and lazy web chats to weak reviews and lack of automation—they reveal real-world examples, hard stats, and proven fixes to plug those costly holes and reclaim your time (and profits).

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>> Lani Dickinson: Welcome back to the Freedom to Exit podcast. I'm Lani

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Dickinson, your host and I am so excited to be joining

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you with Jeana DeShazer the tech

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wizard. And we are in episode

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two of our launch of the toollt

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empire and book solid radio. So

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today we're going to talk about. Well,

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on the last episode we said the five hidden links

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and I said links, the five

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hidden laks. But as we got

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started Gina said, but there're six. So

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we'renna over deliver over episode one.

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And the PA magnet is actually going to be six

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hidden leaks. So today we're going to talk about the six

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hidden leaks that are bleeding your business dry.

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We're building the tool belt empire and booked out radio

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for people just like you who are really great at

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what you do. The handyman, the painter, the home

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service pros that are out there just killing it for their

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clients, but simultaneously maybe killing

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themselves, struggling to build the business,

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working too many long hours trying to run it on texts

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and little post it notes and

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coffee in the drive through and early mornings and

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late nights and missing baseball and ballet and all

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of those things. But today we're going to talk about how you

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can start plugging the leaks that will grow

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your business autom. Magically.

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>> Gina de Shazer: There you go.

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>> Lani Dickinson: And first up is

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missed calls. Missed calls means missed

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money, right? Here's the thing. if

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the phone rings and no one answers,

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going to voicemail, that's where leads go to die. And you have

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to understand this, if you're fine with things going to

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voicemail, here's some stats for you that

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will make you change your mind on that. 98

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or 99% of voicemails

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never get listened to, much less

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answered. And the reason is

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you have 5 minutes

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247 to respond to an

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inbound question about

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your service. If you

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don't answer any kind of an answer within

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5 minutes 24 7, they don't care if you're sleeping,

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then they are already googled. Five of your

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competitors who have a website, which is

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Gina is going to talk about with a web chat widget, and AI

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answering the phone, all of those things.

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Now, the reason I say 247 is you might

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not know this, but 40 something

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percent of Googling happens

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after 6pm why we go to

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bed, the world fades

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away and only the problems remain in our

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heads. So we reach for our phone and we start

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Googling. So

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missing phone calls and having them go to

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voicemail, that's not the

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business, that's going to grow your Business.

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>> Gina de Shazer: Know I had a refrigerator problem one time.

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>> Lani Dickinson: You did?

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>> Gina de Shazer: Yeah. Started calling people. I

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had a ah, guy on his voicemail

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say you can leave a message if you want, but

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I'm not going to listen to it. He

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actually said that I'm too busy, I'm not goingna

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get your voicemail. I was like okay

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and went to the next one. Ok, Colin. Until I found

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one.

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>> Lani Dickinson: Well the biggest problem is they don't return the

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calls, period. I'm talking about, you call later and

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it's too late. But the truth is. See you.

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I've got 47,000 examples of home

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service people who just don't return the calls. But.

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>> Lani Dickinson: Let's talk about websites and chat widgets and

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how that creates trust.

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>> Gina de Shazer: You would think that today, in today's time, we've

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had websites around since what, I don't know, how long have they

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been around? Internet age?

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>> Lani Dickinson: 80S.

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>> Gina de Shazer: 80S? Yeah.

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>> Lani Dickinson: I mean those weren't great ones.

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>> Gina de Shazer: No, no. Some of them still look like they're from the

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80s. We see you and it

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needs to be updated. but there are still people out

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there, believe it or not, that do not have a website.

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And so the first thing that people

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do when they want something, they Google, like you

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said, repair, handyman, whatever. You're

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googling it and you look and

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I always want to go to their website and see if it's

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a 1980 website.

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>> Lani Dickinson: Are they real people?

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>> Gina de Shazer: Are they real? Have they been

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working on their website? Is it updated

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or does it say still say copyright

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2000 at the bottom 25 years

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ago. They haven't touched the website since. And

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so website is definitely necessary, it doesn't have to be

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big. I think that's the mindset

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that I don't have time and I got to build this huge

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website. You don't have to. One page, that's

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it. One page tells what you

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do, who you are, all those things that people

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are looking for. And the next thing, the first thing I

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do when I go to a website is I look down at the right hand

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corner, right where the web chats

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are already at, are always at

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down there. And I click on it and see if I can ask

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it questions. If you can get that

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web chat to answer questions for you,

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the percentage of them converting, converting

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as just goes through the roof.

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So those little things like

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that that you think it's gonna take me

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forever, but it's not.

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>> Lani Dickinson: But Gina, you're a tech words wizard, they already know that. So

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tell us a story about a real client who installed A chat

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widget and was like, oh my God, you weren't

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lying.

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>> Gina de Shazer: I know you I know, I know. I'I got

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several that say things like that that are just blown

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away by just that one thing. putting it on

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their site and even just the simple

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ones that just collect name. And so

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here's a quick little automation that I do a lot. Put a chat

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widget on there, it asks for their name, email,

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phone and their problem or their question. And

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it automatically then text that

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to the business owner and it says, hey,

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get back with them. You have a hot lead, lead, hot

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lead, get back with them. And

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it automatically also texts the

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person that just put the information on

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there and said, hey, we got your message. We'll get back with

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you know as soon as possible. By

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end of day, however, we wan toa say it. And then that

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person knows. Oh, okay, they're paying attention,

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they're paying attention.

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>> Lani Dickinson: And this does meet the requirement of what I was saying

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about miss calls, miss money. That actually starts the

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conversation. So that's enough to keep

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the person on the line. You can't do it m tomorrow but you got

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toa get in there.

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>> Gina de Shazer: Right? Well, it's the same thing with the missed call. We can

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set up an automation that when call you missed that call.

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They automatic and it's happened to me automatically got a

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text that said, hey, sorry, missed your call.

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What's going on? How can we help you? And I just start. Cause

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no one wants to really talk on the phone.

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>> Lani Dickinson: Yeah, not me.

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>> Gina de Shazer: Nobody wants talk on the phone. I talk.

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>> Lani Dickinson: How many times do I say get me to bullets and send me

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a text.

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>> Gina de Shazer: That's right. That's right. No one wants to talk. They want to text

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or they're at work and they can't. But

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I gotta schedule this repair or whatever you.

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And so I started texting back and it became a texting

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conversation. We solved it all right there and bam. I was happy.

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They were happy.

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>> Lani Dickinson: Yeah. So yeah, I already

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jumped the gun on number three. I mentioned it back

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in number one. No follow up equals a cold

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lead. So I talked about that. have you

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ever sent something and they said, oh, they'd think about it. And then

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there's crickets. We like to say be backs, don't be

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back most of the

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time. This isn't a lost job. It's too much time in the

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follow up they found somebody else. So I already

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sprung that one on them in number one spng that

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leak. I sprung that.

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>> Gina de Shazer: Good.

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>> Lani Dickinson: All right, so number four.

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>> Gina de Shazer: Number four is your Google Business

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profile. We talked about Googling someone'said

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Google use is now a verb.

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>> Lani Dickinson: Ye. Noun. It'probably a. I'm gonna

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it.

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>> Gina de Shazer: You wanna Google it. It's what you tell people. Google it. You.

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>> Lani Dickinson: No, we never said I'm Yahoo in it.

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>> Gina de Shazer: No, no. Goog. It's always Googling it. Always Googling

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it. And so, they Google it.

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And if you're not there

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they question, are you a real business? Are you still in business?

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And so the importance of having

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a Google business profile and having

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it working for you because

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Google wants that to be an active site. It's almost like

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in social media or its own little

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website because they want you updating

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it. And so there's a lot that we're going to

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unpack later in a session about Google business.

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>> Lani Dickinson: Full episode on Google.

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>> Gina de Shazer: That's how important it is because there's so many pieces.

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There's the reviews piece, there's

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the, Just questions and answers.

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>> Lani Dickinson: He just sprung a link.

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>> Gina de Shazer: I did, I did. There's a bunch in there. There's

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a bunch in there. So having that optimized,

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getting one. If you don't have one step number one and

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then optimizing it and continually.

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I know you think that's a lot of work

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'you hire people for that. That's why you hire

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us. But it'also can be put on

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automation.

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>> Lani Dickinson: Ye. Game changer.

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>> Gina de Shazer: Ye.

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>> Lani Dickinson: So the leak she sprung was leak number five, which

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is reviews. No social proof. Yeah, great

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job, nice lead in. Even if your work is

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amazing,

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no reviews on your site

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is going to kill it. Right? People don't trust

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even their family. I have data. I wish I'd looked

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these statistics up before we talk today,

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but we have data that says people trust.

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And it's a big number, like 75%

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or something. I totally don't know the exact number,

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but big number. People trust

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Google reviews more than they trust a recommendation from

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a family. Maybe it was 45%. It's a high number.

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Like you don't trust your family more than a Google review. Isn't that

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wild?

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>> Gina de Shazer: I have an importance of Google reviewing. Example.

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>> Lani Dickinson: Okay, let's go.

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>> Gina de Shazer: My husband and I were moving. We decided to get a

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moving company. Okay. We had a lot

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of it stored because we had to move temporarily. But anyway, long

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story, and he hires

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this company and we sa there on moving

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day. No moving company.

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We called them and they say, well,

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you weren't first on our list today. Well, that's

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the first mistake. And so the other job's

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taken a little longer we may not get to

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you till tomorrow.

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>> Lani Dickinson: And you're moving.

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>> Gina de Shazer: And we're moving. We have to be down to our new

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house because they're dropping our pod with all the rest

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of our stuff there. And HOA says you can only

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have a pod there for 24 hours. So it just.

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Anyway, long story. But anyway, I get

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on there and I google them.

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>> Lani Dickinson: By the way, that's back to the husband in the honey doew list. But

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that's a different. We already covered.

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>> Gina de Shazer: Yes, did, so I googled them. Oh my gosh.

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The reviews were horrendous. They were

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awful. And I looked at my husband and said, did

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you ever think to read

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the reviews? No. I was

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like, you never get to hire anyone

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again. Again. Ever.

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Which probably didn't make you our audience'men.

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>> Lani Dickinson: But you know, this is the other side of it. Right.

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>> Gina de Shazer: Anyway, so that's we'a good example of reviews

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and getting good ones and not just to

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get, a five star. So even if you're like at 4, 6,

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4.6 or something to get up to a five star,

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I think we were looking at the stats of the day. It takes like

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50 or 65 stars to

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move that 4.6 up.

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>> Lani Dickinson: So the good news is the tool belt

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empire has the numbers to be able to do that and they

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provide the quality work. They just need our systems to get that

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happening.

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>> Gina de Shazer: That right.

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>> Lani Dickinson: The other thing that was mind boggling to

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me about Google reviews is

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96% of consumers refer to them. Your

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husband's in the 4% that don't. That is true.

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And the people, it's

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like 20% of people, if

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there's no reviews, they won't even consider the business.

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>> Gina de Shazer: That's true.

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>> Lani Dickinson: And if there are no responses,

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and the responses have to be within, not

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necessarily one minute, but within a few

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hours. And they have to be, they have to kind of feel

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authentic. Not just like, than. Thank you.

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>> Gina de Shazer: Thank you for that good review.

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>> Lani Dickinson: Thanks. Good talk.

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>> Gina de Shazer: No, and, that kind of leads into the next

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le. is no automation equals no

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time freedom. If anyone knows me, you know, I am an

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automation crazy

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woman.

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>> Lani Dickinson: And I am a time freedom crazy woman. So this,

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this is us.

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>> Gina de Shazer: if I could automate everything in my life, I

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would like my lights come on at a certain time at night

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and go off in the morning so I don't have to worry about flipping

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on my outside lights and turn them off. Our Airbnb

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needs that.

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>> Lani Dickinson: By the way, if you are the person who installs that,

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we can help you grow your business for sure.

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>> Gina de Shazer: But automations keep you from having to do these things

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manually.

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>> Lani Dickinson: And every minute you're spending doing

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an yourself is a minute

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you can't be making more money

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or spending time with your family.

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>> Gina de Shazer: Yeah, I had a client, it ties into the reviews. We had

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a client, we reviewed. I mean we

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automated the responses to the reviews.

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>> Lani Dickinson: Hm.

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>> Gina de Shazer: And they're really amazing. It's A.I. don't let

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A.I. scare you. But it's amazing the responses.

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>> Lani Dickinson: By the way, you're the guys who AI is not going to

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replace.

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>> Gina de Shazer: That's actually part of that is true.

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>> Lani Dickinson: Why when we talked about launching the toollt

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empires like you know,

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the handyman, the home services, the painters, the

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plumbers, all these

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people, that's you who make it all work and come together

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seamlessly. AI is not going to take your job

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away. But it may grow your business, it.

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>> Gina de Shazer: Will grow your business. But the saying is AI is not going to

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replace you. But companies who use

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AI will replace you.

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>> Lani Dickinson: Y.

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>> Gina de Shazer: Exactly. now I lost

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my train of thought. But anyway, automations, it

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will save you tons of time. Oh, I was, I was talking about the

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reviews, the automated reviews. she told us that it

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has saved her like up to two hours a

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day because at the end of the day she would go

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home, sit down, go through all

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of her stuff.

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>> Lani Dickinson: And start blink, blinking,

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cursor, you gotta.

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>> Gina de Shazer: Look at the reviews and then you got to think of a response that's going

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to be decent. And then. So it's taken her a long

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time and now it automatically

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answers them for her within 5, 10 minutes of the

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review. And look, she looks at them to make sure they

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didn't go wonky or something because you know, AI can give you

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crazy and you can always edit it, but

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she's like, that's time that I got

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back in my life every night to spend with my

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family at night.

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>> Lani Dickinson: And what's more common than somebody who

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takes the time to answer them is somebody who says

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am I going to go collect the cash from the

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client that owes me? I got to make

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payroll. So cash is going to win. Am I going

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to miss another baseball game? Am I

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going to try and squeeze in one more

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thing? Because you know, I've got some goal

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and suddenly responding to reviews falls to the

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bottom.

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>> Gina de Shazer: Well, here's another deal of missing a ballgame.

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How many guys do you see at a ballgame

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that are there in body, but

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they're off over here in the corner on their phone

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answering questions or keeping their business

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running?

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>> Lani Dickinson: Do they feel horrible about it. Yeah, I, finished

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my master's degree

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from the soccer sidelines. I mean, I

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was there, right?

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So if you feel like

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you've got all your leaks covered, we want to interview you.

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And if you don't feel like you've got them all covered,

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whether there was five or six, if

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you feel like you don't have them covered, we built a guide that

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walks you through exactly what they are

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and how to fix them step by step. It's called

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the six hidden leaks in your handyman and home services

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business that are bleeding your business.

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Or something like that title may change because that

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didn't sound too fun. But it's free, it's simple, and

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you can grab it today. The link will be down in the show

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notes. While you're there,

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grab your free Google your business profile

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audit. So that'll be a link to

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schedule a profile audit with, Gina, the

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That one thing alone can double your

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And we'd love to help audit your profile and get you where you

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need to be. And the truth

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is, most people don't even set it up right. They even

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struggle to get the address approved.

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>> Gina de Shazer: Correct.

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>> Lani Dickinson: That's no laughing matter. So

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in the next episode, we're going to talk about what happens when you

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only use one or two pieces of a system,

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when you're using this much of this much

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that's available, and why that leaves you

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stuck on that hamster wheel roller coaster we've been talking

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about. Until then, start plugging the

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leaks. Schedule your Google audit.

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business that are bleeding you dry.

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Most entrepreneurs are trapped in a cycle of working too much and earning too little freedom. Lani’s expertise lies in building sustainable, scalable, and sellable businesses—giving founders the ability to step back, cash out, or create a legacy that lasts. If you’re ready to stop running your business and start owning your life, you’re in the right place.