Episode 13

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29th Apr 2025

You Don't Need More Leads

In this episode of Freedom to Exit, Lani Dickinson drops a powerful truth:

You don’t need more leads—you need better follow-up.

Lani reveals why most businesses are leaking leads (and cash) they already paid to generate. She shares how slow or missed follow-up destroys not just your current revenue but your future exit valuation. Plus, she explains why AI and automation are no longer optional if you want to scale, sell, or step back from your business without losing momentum.

What You’ll Learn:

  • Why your team is ghosting leads—and shrinking your exit multiple
  • How buyers evaluate your sales process when deciding what your business is worth
  • Critical statistics that prove speed-to-lead is everything
  • How automation boosts your revenue and makes your business sellable
  • Real examples of AI catching leads (and closing deals) at 2am while competitors sleep

If your goal is time freedom, location freedom, or a bigger check when you exit—you can’t afford to miss this.

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Transcript
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>> Lani Dickinson: Hey, friends, welcome back to Freedom to Exit.

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Today, I want to hit you with a truth bomb. You probably don't

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need more leads. I know I said it. And in all

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my years of experience working with people, they always say we need

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more leads, but we actually need to follow up with the leads that

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are already looking for us. You probably don't need to

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spend another dime on ads right away. You

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probably don't need to crank out one more reel or speak at

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another event. What you really need to do is stop

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ghosting the leads that you already have. And the truth

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is, most of the time, we don't even appreciate how many people

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are already looking for us. and I say that with love, but

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I also say it with data. Right now, people are

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googling for the thing you offer. In fact,

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30% or more of inbound inquiries

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happen after hours. That's while you and your competitors

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are sleeping at night, in the early morning,

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when your ideal client finally

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starts to go to bed and the world slips away and all the stress of the

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day is kind of quiet, their world gets

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quiet. Then they start to focus on the 1, 2, 3 big

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problems they have in their life or in their business, and they

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start searching for solutions. I know I reach right

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over here, get my phone, and I start scrolling in the

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middle of the night. So here's the question. Are you the one they hear back

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from first, or are you the business that responds

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at the end of tomorrow or three days later after

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they've already booked someone else? Because here's

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where the stories that hurt come in. Let me paint a

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couple scenarios for you. First, it's

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9:01am your hot lead comes in. She's ready to talk,

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maybe even ready to buy. She's making effort

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to reach out to you. So that's a ready

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to buy intent kind of approach. But your team's

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in back to back meetings. The email sits, the voicemail

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sits, and voicemail is where leads go to die. But no one gets back

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to her until after lunch. But by then, she's already

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booked a competitor who picked up the phone. In fact, there's

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data that says people are willing to wait about five

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minutes. And by the end of the five minutes, they're

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googling three of your competitors. So after

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lunch is too late most of the time. How

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14am? M. Someone's in bed,

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as I mentioned, spiraling through their life's

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problems. They're googling. Best photographer near me.

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Emergency tax help, weight loss coach. I used to own

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a gym, so I definitely know that they are googling for

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weight loss Solutions. At 2 o'clock in the morning, they land on

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your site, they submit the form and then nothing

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happens. That's if you even have a form. No reply, no

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text back, no callack, no scheduling. If you don't have a chat

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widget or a form, you don't even know that

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they were there. And I hear this a lot. People say, oh, I don't think that there

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are that many people looking for us. They are

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looking for you. By the time your assistant sees the form

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that might have gotten submitted tomorrow at 9am,

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your buyer has already talked to someone else. And here's

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the really painful truth. We all want to believe that

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our team follows up fast. But the truth is your team

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is not following up as fast as you would

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and they're giving up much sooner than you would

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too. I have a lot of statistics and data about that and it

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is costing you money. It's costing you money now,

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costing you revenue now, costing you reputation

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now. But in terms of wanting to exit, whether that's

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for time and location freedom now or to have a sale

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later, it's costing you an exit multiple

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and systems and process and all of these things that

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drive your ability to exit for

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either version of exit. So here's the stats that are going to

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slap you right in the face. So let's go full nerd

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for a minute. Here are the numbers that keep me up at night on

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behalf of my clients and they should keep you motivated.

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If you respond to a lead within five minutes, you

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are 21 more times likely

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to qualify that lead than if you wait 30

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minutes. So the ale ll get back to you after

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lunch doesn't work. You've got literally five minutes because

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after five minutes your chances drop by

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80%. And just so you know,

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78%, of customers go with the first

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responder. But the average business takes 47 hours

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to follow up and respond. Now yours, you might say,

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oh, that doesn't happen to us. I'm saying that's the average

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business. But are you responding in five minutes?

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The answer is probably no. And Even worse,

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only 27% of leads ever get

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contacted at all. But wait, it gets more painful and

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more personal. 44% of

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salespeople give up after only one follow

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up. But 80% of sales

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take place and actually have success after

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5 to 12 follow ups. In an online

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world, that gets more and more because it's less and less

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tangible. 60% of customers say

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no four times before they can ever get to

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yes. But 44% of salespeople are giving

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up after one follow up. Humans are not

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designed to want to hear no 5, 6,

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7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 times. So

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your staff is stopping. So let me ask you a

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tough love question. Does your team actually follow up all

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those times with every single lead or are

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they moving your people over to voicemail and leaving

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one voicemail, which is where we know leads go to die. That's

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not just a sales issue that will harm you now, but

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that's a valuation issue later when you wanna sell.

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Here's why this matters to you and to a buyer. Here's what

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most people miss. Every time you lose the lead due

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to slow follow up or no follow up, you're not just

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missing today's cash, you're shrinking the value

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of your business because your bottom line profits.

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I'm wearing my EBITDA whisperer T shirt today. So we

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are all about bottom line profits today. Your bottom line

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profit is what determines your exit multiple,

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not your revenue you could make. They do wantna

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know that they can grow sales, but they're gonna give you

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bottom line exit valuation based

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upon what is your EBITDA or your seller

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discretionary expense? How much do you actually

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keep? And this part is huge. When a buyer looks

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at your business and sees that you're already

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maximizing your existing inbound

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traffic, they're pretty excited

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because that means if they layer on a little bit of ad

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spend, the thing can scale fast.

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It's plug and play growth for them. And

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every buyer wants continued

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growth after the sale because they're buying cash

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flow, they're not buying a job. But if you're leaking leads

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left and right, that's risk, that's cost, and at

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best, that's a discounted sales price.

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But it's probably more like you're gonna join the four out of

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five businesses that never sell. So let's talk about the

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buyer's lens. What are they really evaluating?

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When someone's thinking about buying your business, they're asking, how do the

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leads come in? How fast are they contacted? Who's doing the follow up?

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what happens if the owner takes a week off? What happens if we take the

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owner's face off of the ads? If the answer is we

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usually get to them by the next day, guess what? Your

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value just took a nosedime. If you, the founder,

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are still the sales department or your wife is still

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the sales department, that's not a business, it's a job. And

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there are no buyers today looking for jobs. Whether it's

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private equity. They want a management team to keep running

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the business. The army of buyers that are being trained

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to buy with seller financing, no money down,

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keep you in and ear out. Those people were born in

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a different generation than the one where you built your business

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and they are not looking for jobs, they are looking for cash flow.

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But if there's a system that runs without you, that's a

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machine. And machines get premium offers. This is

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where automation steps in and saves the day and

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your valuation. Imagine this. The lead that comes

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in at 2:14 in the morning. Your AI assistant

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answers immediately. She asks the qualifying

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questions. You can make yours a boy. Mine is a girl. Her name

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is ava. She answers FAQs.

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She books them directly on your calendar and she follows

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up 7, 8, 9, 10 times if

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they go quiet. She doesn't call in sick. She doesn't have Moody

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Monday. She doesn't ghost the hot leads. She doesn't wait

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until some other administrative task is done.

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She just closes the deals. That's what an

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AI employee really can do for you. And that's why it's

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such a powerful revenue driver and a value

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multiplier. But does it sound like a robot? I know that's what

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you're thinking. I know that's a serious concern for people. But

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is it gonna sound robotic? It has come a long

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way. We're not talking awkward. Please press 1 to

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continue. That's the thing of the past. We're talking

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about natural, human, empathetic and smooth. Even

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tell you a joke, even remember something about you.

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In fact, when I play the demo of

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our AI assistant on live calls, people are shocked.

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They can't believe wait, that was AI.

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That's not a human. You'll get to hear it yourself when you download the

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free guide we have to offer at the end of this podcast because

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I've included a sample call in the bonus

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resources. So go listen to that. It'll blow your mind. So you've

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heard a million times in your career while you're running your business, it's time

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to get off the hamster. Whee. If your business depends on you

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to respond to inquiries, deliver service. If you are

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the face of the business, you're never going to get off

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the treadmill and you're never going to sell your business.

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But if you install any amount of AI and

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automation that catches every lead, books, appointments,

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follows up endlessly, that frees you up to be the

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CEO and it creates more cash

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to pay for either lifestyle now

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or the other things that we need to put into the business to

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make it more sellable and get you a higher exit

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valuation. This is what I call freedom. Many people

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started their business for freedom, but they're on the hamster wheel.

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Which, yeah, maybe it's better than the corporate job, but it

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is not freedom. AI and automation allow us

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to create scale and exit readiness.

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No matter which version of exit you want, you don't build

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a business to stay stuck in it forever. You build it

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to be worth something, to mean something. Whether that's

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time or peace or legacy or

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a big fat check when you exit. So here's your next

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move. Download My free guide 7 Ways

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to Incorporate AI into your Business Today. The

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link will be in the show notes. You'll learn the specific ways to

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start automating, your follow up and bookings and reviews

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and so much more. And yes, you'll hear that AI

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live call and you will say, oh my gosh, I can't believe

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that's a robot. Also, you can take the changes assessment. It

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will show you exactly where you're leaking money,

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missing leads and holding your business back from

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real freedom. Both links are in the show notes. Here's the

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truth. You don't need to hustle harder. You need to

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respond smarter. But the level of response people

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expect is not humanly possible, even

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while you're awake. That's where you need AI

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and automation. Your leads are searching for

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solutions at 2:00 in the morning, your competitors are

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sleeping, or the ones that have AI are

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closing. And your AI assistant, soon as you hire that

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one, it's ready to go. She's already booked the

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job without moody Mondays, without rolling her eyes

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about the 7,000 times she's had to answer an

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FAQ for a lead. So as always, thanks for joining

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today and I'd love for you to subscribe to the

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show and share this with friend or someone you know

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who needs to hear this.

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About the Podcast

Freedom To Exit
Freedom to Exit with Lani Dickinson
Freedom to Exit helps small business owners turn buyers into beggars by building sustainable, scalable, and sellable businesses—while avoiding earn-outs, seller financing, and discounted exits.

Hosted by Lani Dickinson, this podcast is for entrepreneurs who want to build a business that runs without them and sells on their terms.

Most businesses never sell. Why? Because they weren’t built to be sellable. Whether your goal is time and location freedom or a profitable exit, the steps are the same:
- Designing a scalable, self-sustaining company
- Building predictable, repeatable revenue
- Structuring your business to attract the right buyers
- Avoiding seller financing, earn-outs, and bad deals
- Understanding how buyers structure deals so you can negotiate from strength

Each week, Lani breaks down the realities of exiting a business, shares insights from top entrepreneurs and buyers, and gives you the tools to maximize your company’s value before you even think about selling.

If you want to own a business that works for you—not the other way around—Freedom to Exit will show you exactly how to get there.

About your host

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Lani Dickinson

Lani Dickinson is a former Fortune 175 CEO who left the corporate world to help business owners achieve what most never do—true freedom. Through STEALTH, she helps founders scale smarter, exit richer, and reclaim their lives by transforming their businesses into sellable, high-value assets.

Most entrepreneurs are trapped in a cycle of working too much and earning too little freedom. Lani’s expertise lies in building sustainable, scalable, and sellable businesses—giving founders the ability to step back, cash out, or create a legacy that lasts. If you’re ready to stop running your business and start owning your life, you’re in the right place.