Episode 27

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Published on:

1st Sep 2025

Elevate Your Google Profile: Tips for Attracting More Customers

Your Google listing is more than a digital business card—it’s your most underutilized marketing asset. In this episode, Lani and Jeana dig into the real power behind your Google Business Profile (GBP): why most business owners are using it wrong, what to fix today, and how to make it your highest-converting source of leads without spending a dime on ads.

If you're still relying on word of mouth or chasing leads that never close, it's time to make Google do the heavy lifting.

What You’ll Learn:

  • The #1 mistake most people make with their Google listing
  • How the “map pack” works and why it’s your ticket to free visibility
  • What info Google needs to trust your profile (and rank it higher)
  • Why automation makes or breaks your review strategy
  • Tools to collect 100+ great reviews with less than 5 minutes of effort
  • What to post on your listing to keep it active and converting

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Transcript
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>> Lani Dickinson: Welcome back to Freedom to Exit. I'm your host, Lonnie

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Dickinson and Gina Desaier.

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Today we have been presenting over the last few

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episodes the introduction to our tool belt

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empire and book Solid Radio.

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Today we're going to talk about your Google business

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profile and how it's not just a map pin, it's a

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money magnet. Now this is one of the things that

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Gina really loves. So

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you're going toa want to take notes and probably open up your phone

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by the end of this episode. So coming in

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hot. Okay, Gina, here's the stakes. Let's say

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someone's looking for handyman near me.

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Window installer near me. Painter near me. Home

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remodeling near me. Cause that's what they're putting

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in. Well, that's actually the thing that gets fed to them. Near me is the

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first thing that comes up and then they type that into

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Google.

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>> Lani Dickinson: What happens now?

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>> Jeana DeShazer: Well, the first thing you see nowadays is the very first thing is

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AI generated answer. And

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then the next group you gott look, it'll say

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sponsored. Those are people that paid to be there. They

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may not be any good, but they're paying to get up there.

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>> Lani Dickinson: Right.

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>> Jeana DeShazer: And then the next group is what you really want to look at is what we call

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the map pack.

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>> Lani Dickinson: Map pack.

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>> Jeana DeShazer: Mac pap. Map pack. It's hard to say,

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but there's three of them and those are like

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the top three based on a lot of

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things of your Google business profile,

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your reviews. Is it in active?

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are you adding things to it? Are you adding

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photos? Are you adding questions and

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answers and things like that that lets them know that this business

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is still alive. Google loves those kind of things.

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They want you to stay on Google. That's why they're

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making it more and more like it's your own little website. Because they want

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people to stay on Google. Yeah. so

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you want to be one of those.

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And getting there is

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half the battle.

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>> Lani Dickinson: Half the battle. And if you're not showing up

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there, you've already lost the

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battle.

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>> Jeana DeShazer: Yes. Very few people will. I some will. They'll go

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on down the page and look, but

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very few will. And if you show up on

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second or third page, you're pretty much

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notnna get well.

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>> Lani Dickinson: And we know that 98% of people say

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they first go to Google.

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>> Jeana DeShazer: Right. And. And 86% of

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customers say that they won't even consider a business with

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no online presence.

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>> Lani Dickinson: Yeah, it's serious.

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>> Jeana DeShazer: It is, it is.

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>> Lani Dickinson: So what are some common problems that

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you see when people come to you, they've been doing it themselves.

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>> Lani Dickinson: And it's still not working. So they again think, oh, this

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doesn't work either. What are some common problems, you see?

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>> Jeana DeShazer: well, one of the main things is not

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even having it set up. Right. Like not

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having, Maybe you don't have your phone number on there.

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Or maybe you've changed your phone number and you haven't went back and updated

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your Google business profile.

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>> Lani Dickinson: Or maybe you put the wrong address on like I did when I did it May.

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Instead of having you do it.

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>> Jeana DeShazer: Yeah, good.

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>> Lani Dickinson: I was 111 instead of 112. It makes

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a difference.

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>> Jeana DeShazer: It does. It makes a huge difference.

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And so that kind of stuff,

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is one of the first things that we look at. Have you linked

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your website? I mean, if you have a

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website.

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>> Lani Dickinson: Well, they will after they get done with us.

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>> Jeana DeShazer: That's right. That's right. Then you need to link it.

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used to. You could even like, chat people

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from there. But Google, for some reason, turn that off. I don't know

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why. I don't know. Anyway, we

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just look at those kind of things. First of all, accuracy.

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>> Lani Dickinson: Like hours.

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>> Jeana DeShazer: Hours, yes.

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>> Lani Dickinson: I really wish chiropractor would hear this

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episode because his hours are never accurate. His Facebook

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page says one thing, the Google profile

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says another. I have to take a picture every time I'm at

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his office.

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>> Jeana DeShazer: I take a picture of the door, see what's new.

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>> Lani Dickinson: Because it changes all the time.

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>> Jeana DeShazer: Yeah. And another thing that goes along with this is what we call

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citations. This is just a freebie here.

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>> Lani Dickinson: Freebie. You heard it here.

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>> Jeana DeShazer: And a citation is your information

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is out there on places you don't even

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know. I mean, Google, Bing,

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Yahoo, and there's tons of other ones

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that we can run a report and show you where

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these places are. And you're like, I don't even know those places.

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>> Lani Dickinson: Here's another. Phoebe, do you know who wrote the code for

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Bing?

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>> Jeana DeShazer: No.

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>> Lani Dickinson: Marty Pell. Barney Pell.

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This my homie.

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>> Jeana DeShazer: Oh, okay. Yeah, I didn't know that.

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>> Lani Dickinson: You think you're a tech. What do you call yourself?

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>> Jeana DeShazer: Tech wizard. You call me a tech wizard? Anyway,

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if those citations are different, like you want

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them to be the same on all of them, if your

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address on one is different than another one, Google goes out and

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looks at all these citations and

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it gets confused and it's like, oh, there's a phone number on here

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that's this one. And then this phone number is this one. And

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so it gets confused and it doesn't like that. So it's kind of like

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a mark against you. Like, you know, in school

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you got a mark against you.

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>> Lani Dickinson: You know how rules that problem.

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>> Jeana DeShazer: Your hands, a ruler slap. You ever.

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>> Lani Dickinson: I did not get ruler slaps. My parents whooped

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me with.

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>> Jeana DeShazer: Maybe I'm the only one in this.

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>> Lani Dickinson: Group together there was ever a need. Okay, quick story.

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I lived in Japan from second to sixth grade,

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on a military base. And, I come

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home and it's strict. I go to

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Department of defense schools. If you get in trouble there,

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they call your dad's boss. It's not like you're not

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just getting a little note home they call your dad's boss. So it

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serious business. So I come home, come back to

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California in sixth grade, and, I

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was far ahead of the class, so I was

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grading papers and stuff all the time, and I

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got asked to carry something to the office. And I saw

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a line of people lined up out the door getting paddled by

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the vice principal. And I was like,

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what in the world is this?

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>> Jeana DeShazer: The principal spanks you too. You don't

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anymore. Yeah, not anymoremore.

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>> Lani Dickinson: Anyway, I got whooped with and I turned out fine.

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>> Jeana DeShazer: Well, Google will

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ruler slap your hands if you get citations wrong

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in all these places.

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>> Lani Dickinson: You know how I deal with that? For me, because you

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know, I don't.

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Whenever I try to do it myself, Ginaus sends me messages.

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Why don't you just let me do this for you?

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>> Jeana DeShazer: Leave it alone.

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>> Lani Dickinson: But the way I get the, address correct every time in the phone number, I

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keep it on a Google Doc and I cut and paste it on everything

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I do because you told me about that problem.

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Y. Yeah.

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>> Jeana DeShazer: So there's little things like that that we can go look

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and see and let you know why

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you're down here instead of up here.

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>> Lani Dickinson: Yeah. So you're good customers. You can also

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ask them to post pictures in their review if you have a

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relationship. That I think really helps too.

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Have I wrote a Google review for

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a junk hauller guy, the servant king. There's a plug

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Chris. And he said, lonnie,

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would you be willing to post pictures with your. I was like,

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sure. So I took a few pictures. That review has

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been looked at over like 12 or 1300 times.

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>> Jeana DeShazer: Wow.

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>> Lani Dickinson: He's like, that's what I need. I need more pictures. So

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ask your good customers for to, upload

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pictures.

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What about respond? Responding.

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>> Jeana DeShazer: Responding. Yeah, we talked about that in earlier episode as well.

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>> Lani Dickinson: This is the Google episode.

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>> Jeana DeShazer: I. I know, but we got ahead of ourselves. It was A

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leak. It was a leak. It was a leak. And so, yes,

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responding to the reviews. Google wants you to respond to

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every review, good or bad.

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>> Lani Dickinson: Customers do too. okay. I wish I'd looked

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these stats up. I said that in another episode.

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companies who respond to even negative

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reviews within 24 hours,

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I think it's something like 30% of

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them. It may not be that high, 20 or 30% of them.

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The reviewer will usually change that from a 4,

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3, 2 to a 3. They won't probably give

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you a 4, but a 2 to a 3. That average makes

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a big difference in your overall rating. So it's

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worth it to respond to the negatives. And then there's another

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percentage, I don't remember, of people

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who discredit people who don't respond to the negative

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reviews. And for every

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negative, review that's responded to or

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every negative review that's responded to, it's something like an

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additional 3%. Click, click through rate to your

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websites and your booking links. If you have those things

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attached there. It's interesting. It's

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like, okay, everybody knows stuff

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happens. How does this business owner respond when stuff

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happens? Do they make it right?

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>> Jeana DeShazer: I'm a tech wizard for other people as well,

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and I know, right?

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but another one told me that she

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got more, leads

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off of her responses to a

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bad review than she ever did off of the responses

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to the good ones.

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>> Lani Dickinson: Proving my point.

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>> Jeana DeShazer: So. Yeah, exactly, proving your point. So,

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automating those reviews. I know, we're going toa

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talk about AI later in another episode, but using

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AI to answer those reviews, I know, sounds

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scary to let someone else take over. And

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we've had people go, o. I don't know. But once they do it and they

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see them, they're so good, such good.

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>> Lani Dickinson: Responses that they're like, how many hours back?

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>> Jeana DeShazer: I gu calendar that at least two hours a day

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of trying to think of what, how to answer them,

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how Google would want them answered. Whereas an

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AI knows that and so they're answering them. And even

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the bad ones we had when get a bad review and they were blown away

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at the politically

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correct because as a business

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owner, someone gives you a bad review, what is your first instinct?

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Well, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, defend, defend, defend.

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>> Lani Dickinson: Yeah, I have, my, my big H vac client in my exit

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business. Yeah, my, my first

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meeting with him, you know, I had d done my whole assessment. He had d already hired me

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and, and I came in, gathered information, did my whole, I

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said his name

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you are not allowed to respond to the

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reviews anymore on Google or

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Glass Door. No

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more keyboard for you.

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>> Jeana DeShazer: Yeah, because you get, it's an

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instinct, it's natural instinct to defend yourself.

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>> Lani Dickinson: Defend yourself.

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>> Jeana DeShazer: Whereas AI just present. AI doesn't

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have feelings so it just like presents it well.

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It knows how to say things politically

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correct.

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>> Lani Dickinson: Well. And it knows where we're trying to get them and all those things because we've trained

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it.

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>> Jeana DeShazer: Right.

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>> Lani Dickinson: Yeah.

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>> Jeana DeShazer: Right. So

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you had.

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>> Lani Dickinson: Nope, that wasn't Google. You have a

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story about the lady went on vacation and when she came back she was booked

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out for two weeks.

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>> Jeana DeShazer: No, that's Automations.

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>> Lani Dickinson: It was Automations.

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>> Jeana DeShazer: It's not Google.

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>> Lani Dickinson: Automations are important too. All right,

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so in our opinion,

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I think we could say, Google business

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profile plus its optimization are one

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of the quickest wins that are guys.

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It's, you know, it can help everybody. But for,

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especially for the service based home improvement

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type people, they're googling, they're

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looking at reviews and we

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know, we see it make more money for people.

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It's just a fact. So

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if they wanted to do that, what would be their steps?

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Besides our free Google business audit

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call that they can have? What m are some of the things

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that they can do?

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>> Jeana DeShazer: Well, they can go look at their Google

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business profile number one and go through some of the steps that we just

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discussed. Is my address right? Are my

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hours the same? Because when you set it up, you might

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been open seven days a week and now you're like, oh no, I'm not working

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on Sunday anymore. And so you take that off.

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Or maybe there's after hours, like if you're an

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H vac, what's an emergency number if it's different

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than the first one and all of that stuff. So

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to me just go look at all that stuff and then look at the

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last time you had a review. Did you answer? You can go

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back and answer them. It doesn't matter. I know we've been talking

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about answering them quickly.

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>> Lani Dickinson: Well, it'll help build the habit.

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>> Jeana DeShazer: Just go back and answer them. Go back through there

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and answer them. I'mnn client that goes back and answers

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them. That's been there for a long time. Oh, it's not been

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answered. Let's answer that. yeah, add pictures

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of your, you know, your truck.

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Maybe get in the habit of before and after

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job pictures of a job. Maybe you're

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remodeling something. And before picture and after.

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>> Lani Dickinson: I have a solar guy who does sends a lot of solar, you know, before

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and after and night. I used to think

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how many before and after solar panel pictures do we

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need? But guess what?

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>> Lani Dickinson: It's a big deal.

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>> Jeana DeShazer: Yeah.

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>> Lani Dickinson: I mean solar panels will. Solar panels.

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>> Jeana DeShazer: But, but how did it look on this house?

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>> Lani Dickinson: Yeah, exactly.

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>> Jeana DeShazer: So get in the habit of doing that and then uploading them

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there. So those are just, I mean those are a

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few things that you can do on your own to move the

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needle of your profile.

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>> Lani Dickinson: And when you wanna get serious, you gotta get this profile aud it.

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Because we help you add the automation and all those

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things.

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>> Jeana DeShazer: We talk about reviews and how big they are. And they are,

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they're big. But you're like. And you tell someone,

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hey, go leave me a review. well like how do

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they find that? Well that's the hardest part

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is getting them to go to their phone or to their

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computer or whatever and Google you and then

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try to find where it says leave a review and

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click on it. And then it comes up and with this box and

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these stars and all that. So that's the hardest part.

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So the easiest thing to do.

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Number one, do you have your card?

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We've got NFC cards, ye

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Google card. And you just go tap this on their phone.

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Our podcast guy has the very same thing right here.

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>> Lani Dickinson: He said it changed his life.

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>> Jeana DeShazer: 320 creative changed his life because he, he doesn't have

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to hand out business cards anymore. His is the business card.

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You tap it on a phone and it just automatically

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goes to his link tree that has all the stuff. If they

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don't have that capability then there's a QR code on the back.

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>> Lani Dickinson: That he can give them a good shot of that they might need podcasts.

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>> Jeana DeShazer: Hold it real still. Can you zoom in? And

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if you need podcast help, but ours

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also, we can program it to go directly

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to that box. It just automatically

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pops up with the review box and the

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start thing. They don't have to even think about it.

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>> Lani Dickinson: This helps with everything, not just Google profile.

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I know this because

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all of my rentals in Jacksonville were just due for their

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termite inspections for the insurance.

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And I got a notice that it was my

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final time to pay or whatever, you know, I am. If

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it's not on automation, it doesn't happen. And

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I emailed them twice. I said, can you send me a link to

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pay?

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>> Lani Dickinson: And they said, oh, you gotta go look in your junk box. It's on the invoice,

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there's the address, there's still mailing,

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waiting for checks from across the country.

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>> Jeana DeShazer: Yeah.

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>> Lani Dickinson: Oh my gosh. Everything needs to be a link

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directly to what you want them to do. Busy people are

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notnna chase it down for you.

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>> Jeana DeShazer: Exactly, exactly. So,

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yeah. So we've got easy ways and a

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lot of people are like, that's hard. It's a hard ask.

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Hey, can you go review me? Mean, did you like this? I

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mean they're afraid.

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>> Lani Dickinson: They're gonna go, have you done the review yet? That's not even gonna

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come, right?

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>> Jeana DeShazer: Yeah, they're like, they're afraid they're gonna go, heck no, you were awful.

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I'm not gonna do that.

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>> Lani Dickinson: The worst thing they're worried about is like, it feels like, you know, like we're

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begging for validation or something. And that's a big

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deal. But also if it

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comes when we'd rather be going to

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sleep, going to dinner with our family, going to the ballet

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recital.

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>> Lani Dickinson: All the things we'd rather be doing, it's

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going to fall to the bottom.

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>> Jeana DeShazer: Right?

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>> Lani Dickinson: Yeah.

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>> Jeana DeShazer: Right. If you have a store,

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if someone can come to you, then

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we can put it on like a. And you've seen them in stores.

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It's like a little stand with the Google and you just

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tap your phone on it and it automatically goes there.

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we've had waitresses take them and when they

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take the you take your card back after you've

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paid your. If you've enjoyed your meal. We wouldn't mind

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your. When they lay it there and they just say just tap your card

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on that and it'll take you and you can leave a review and then

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they come back and pick up the card. Soeah a lot of

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ways we can help you make that an easier

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ask and an easier

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response from your customers.

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>> Lani Dickinson: And then the automation will respond in.

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>> Jeana DeShazer: Justonds and answers it.

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You could also set up an automation that goes to them that thanks

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them, you know.

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>> Lani Dickinson: Yeah. And gives them a. Well, you can incentivize them and ask

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gives them a reason to keep doing.

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>> Jeana DeShazer: Business with y and ask them if they have a friend that needs their

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business.

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>> Jeana DeShazer: You know, tell them about Automate that

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anyway could. We could go on all

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dayimations.

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>> Lani Dickinson: So if you don't know how your

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Google listing looks and you didn't know some of this

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information or you haven't touched it in months,

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let us know. We can help you. We'll run a free

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Google business profile audit

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and it'll show you exactly what's helping you and what's

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hurting you and what you need to do to Optimize it and all of

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that. You can also go to the link that's in the

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show notes and download our 6 hidden

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links. 6

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hidden leaks in your business that

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are bleeding you dry and how to fix them fast.

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Because showing up is the first step. Converting those

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leads, knowing where the money's going, all those

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things are. They still need to be taken

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care of in the trades.

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You know this better than we do. People

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judge what they can see.

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Your Google business profile is often the

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first and only thing they can check and see.

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So make sure they have something to look. Look at

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90,

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92. Hold

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on, it's going toa come to me. It's a stat.

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I think it's 92% of people lead in

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their brain visually with the visual field. Some people lead

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with their auditory and some people lead with

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kinesthetic. But most people lead

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with visual. That's how they start their interaction in their

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engagement with the world. So give them something to look

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at. If it looks solid, they're going to

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trust you. If it looks sloppy, they're going to say,

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I don't know, that looks crazy. So go

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check your listing, book your call

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for your gole profile,

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Google profile audit and

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let us help you get it tuned up. Anything else you want to

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add before we hop off? We've

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said enough. I know. As always, we are so

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grateful for your time. We're glad that you're here. We'd love for

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you to share this with anybody who, you know, needs

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join us next week. What are we going to talk about? AI'next

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>> Jeana DeShazer: Sure, I would love to talk about AI.

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>> Lani Dickinson: AI is her thing. She's all in it all day long.

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AI and how. Let's see. I don't remember the title. Just

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join us next week. We're go going toa talk about

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how.

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>> Jeana DeShazer: AI can enhance your business.

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>> Lani Dickinson: Yeah, enhance your business. We'll come up with a better title with by the time

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we record it.

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>> Jeana DeShazer: Yeah.

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>> Lani Dickinson: Thanks so much. Have a great day.

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About the Podcast

Freedom To Exit
Freedom to Exit with Lani Dickinson
Freedom to Exit helps small business owners turn buyers into beggars by building sustainable, scalable, and sellable businesses—while avoiding earn-outs, seller financing, and discounted exits.

Hosted by Lani Dickinson, this podcast is for entrepreneurs who want to build a business that runs without them and sells on their terms.

Most businesses never sell. Why? Because they weren’t built to be sellable. Whether your goal is time and location freedom or a profitable exit, the steps are the same:
- Designing a scalable, self-sustaining company
- Building predictable, repeatable revenue
- Structuring your business to attract the right buyers
- Avoiding seller financing, earn-outs, and bad deals
- Understanding how buyers structure deals so you can negotiate from strength

Each week, Lani breaks down the realities of exiting a business, shares insights from top entrepreneurs and buyers, and gives you the tools to maximize your company’s value before you even think about selling.

If you want to own a business that works for you—not the other way around—Freedom to Exit will show you exactly how to get there.

About your host

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Lani Dickinson

Lani Dickinson is a former Fortune 175 CEO who left the corporate world to help business owners achieve what most never do—true freedom. Through STEALTH, she helps founders scale smarter, exit richer, and reclaim their lives by transforming their businesses into sellable, high-value assets.

Most entrepreneurs are trapped in a cycle of working too much and earning too little freedom. Lani’s expertise lies in building sustainable, scalable, and sellable businesses—giving founders the ability to step back, cash out, or create a legacy that lasts. If you’re ready to stop running your business and start owning your life, you’re in the right place.