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21st Jan 2025

Who's Buying Your Business? Insights for Entrepreneurs

In this episode, we explore the dynamics of business acquisition and payment methods with host, Lani Dickinson.

Discover who the buyers are—individuals, companies, and institutional investors—and how they approach purchasing a business. Learn about the importance of cash flow, management structures, and growth plans in making your business an attractive acquisition target.

This episode is packed with insights on positioning your business for a successful exit!

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>> Lani Dickinson: Today we're goingna talk about who's buying and how

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will they pay for it. Because as you think about who's

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buying, what they need and how they're goingna pay for it, it will help

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you to build things and position things now in

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your business to make people more willing to buy.

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Welcome to the Freedom to Exit podcast. I'm Lani

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Dickinson, former Fortune 175 CEO, bringing

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you expertise, private equity insights,

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turnarounds, sustainable growth and positioning

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yourself for a very satisfactory exit. So let's dive

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in. When we think about individuals, those are the people

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who are being trained out there on the Internet

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to buy your business for nothing, for no money down, keep

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you in it, have you running it as an employee. Make

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no mistake, the only reason they can teach people

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to do this is because most people have not built

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their businesses in a way that makes them

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sellable. Remember, only one in five actually

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sell. Four out of five don't sell. Which means four

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out of five are really a target

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for all of this training about how to buy a business

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for nothing. An individual these days is not

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looking for an owner operator job. They are

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looking for more of an absentee, almost

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owner status and they are looking for cash flows. When

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you're dealing with an individual or a couple of

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people who are looking at your business,

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you have to realize you have to build it in a way

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other people run it and that there is enough cash to

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pay them the money they need to take away

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and make the debt payment out of the

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existing cash flow. These individuals

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are going to be looking to add their expertise

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to grow their business. So let's say a

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small business owner entrepreneur hasn't done

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quite as much online marketing as is

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really available. So maybe I would come and

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look for this business and say I can bring my online

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marketing expertise and really grow that business. So

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they're looking how can I grow it? But the existing business

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cannot be a job and cannot require them on

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site. The next level of buyer might

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be just a company who's looking to grow through

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acquisition. So this would be a

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strategic move for this company.

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Maybe it's gonna make their business bigger or more

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profitable. And maybe they're even

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Planning to buy 10 or TW12 of these

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similar businesses and sell that whole thing for a

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very large number down the road.

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So you might be dealing with just local

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companies that wanna grow a little bit faster and become

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a little bit more profitable. Or maybe they want access to your

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customer base or some kind of a technology or

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a process that you have available Then there's

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the institutional buyer. And this

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is private equity institutions have

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$5 trillion

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under management. There's about 6,000 firms in

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the market today and they're doing about

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50% of all acquisition deals. This

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is a pure financial move for

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these people. Anybody in the private equity space

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is managing money to make money for its

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investors, period. The biggest contributors to

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these private equity funds are pension funds,

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endowment funds and sovereign funds. There's

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also some high net worth investors. But

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when you think about pensions, endowments and sovereign

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funds, they have payment obligations to

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sustain the livelihood of the people and the

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projects that they're responsible for. They need to

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earn way more than the

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7% they can earn in the stock market. They

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have to have 20 and

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25% returns to be able to keep up

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with inflation and the rising

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costs of the that are being paid out.

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What the institutional buyer must

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have from your business is obviously

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cash flow growth at better than a market

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rate and it must have a management team in place.

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The private equity funds don't have a bunch

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of management teams to go deploy in everything

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they build. They are truly buying

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the cash flow and the profit to be able to

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do these sustaining activities. They grow

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by acquisition and then growth

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of what they acquire. So they are looking

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to buy and make better and probably

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do a roll up where they take 10, 20, 30,

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100 of similar businesses and they roll them up

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together and sell them. Generally they're

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looking early on in their fund for

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platforms that they can bolt

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on other businesses. Which means are

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you the business that has the sop,

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the process, the proven outcomes

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that they can then go buy other

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smaller or more fractured

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businesses and bring them and bolt them

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ono this platform and bring that

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process, that structure, that proven outcome to

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those other businesses that they buy. So are

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you able to be a platform business or

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would you be more of a bolt on business? You have to

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have a growth plan. Nobody's buying a plateaued

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business. But if you have a growth plan and they say

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my capital would bring your growth plan

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forward sooner or make us even

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more, then they'll be interested in that how they

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pay comes into whether you're a good target

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for them to buy for an individual, they're probably

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gonna be looking for an SBA loan and they're

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gonna have to put up their house and the benefit

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to them is they get a bunch of money they don't have to raise

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from somewhere else. And it's at SBA interest rates which

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are probably more favorable than going down to the local

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bank or borrowing from other People, they're gonna have to

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put 10% cash down and

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potentially they're raising money to cover that. And

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you keeping your real estate may

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potentially be a form of future cash flow. So

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if the business seller keeps the real estate,

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but the buyer still needs to do the business on the

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land, this can drop the acquisition price

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so that the buyer can more easily afford

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the amount. Just know that real estate and

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the building is something that might create future cash

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flows in this. And know that

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individual buyers are probably looking for some

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version of seller financing if they are being

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trained by these people we've talked about on other podcasts

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that are teaching people how to go buy and

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negotiate for seller financing and seller

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earnouts. It's probably going to be a topic you're goingna need to

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be ready to address and decide how much are you

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willing to participate in that conversation.

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institutions are trying to deploy the

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smallest amount of cash possible. What they do is

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they say what is the least amount of cash we can put

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forward? And then they match that with debt. Your

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business, its cash flows has to

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be able to sustain the debt payments. They're

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very likely not going to allow you to leave debt in the

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organization. They're buying the assets, they don't want your debt,

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so you'll have to pay off your debt. But then they're gonna

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load debt onto the company in their acquisition.

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Typically they're looking for five times

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the leverage. So if you have a $5 million

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EBITDA business and you get a 10x multiple, that

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means your sale price is going to be $50

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million. They're going to do probably

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$25 million in cash and $25

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million in debt. Your company has to be able to

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pay that debt payment after it's sold.

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Now what this tells you is they

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must still make their 20, 25%

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returns and then cover those debt payments. So your

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EBITDA has to be high and you have to be profitable. You

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have to have margins that allow that cash flow to

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make those payments. I've done a private equity turnaround

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and I was the CEO who was brought in

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because they couldn't get the existing team to make the changes

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that needed to be made to get to those profit margins.

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Sellers who say they're going toa change

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the culture, they're goingna change the people. It almost

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always happens because they are going to do

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whatever hard things need to be done to get

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those returns. 73% of founder

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CEOs do not make it their five year holding

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period because of this inability to do the hard things.

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The future payment, often called the second bite of the

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apple, seems sexy. But when we know

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73% of people selling really

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don't make the cut at that fifth year, that means that second

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bite of the apple might not come in the way that we thought it

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was. So if you're finding all of this helpful, feel free to,

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like, share and subscribe and certainly return next

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week, where we continue to dive in more deeply on all

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things related to freedom to exit.

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About the Podcast

Freedom To Exit
Freedom to Exit with Lani Dickinson
Freedom to Exit helps small business owners turn buyers into beggars by building sustainable, scalable, and sellable businesses—while avoiding earn-outs, seller financing, and discounted exits.

Hosted by Lani Dickinson, this podcast is for entrepreneurs who want to build a business that runs without them and sells on their terms.

Most businesses never sell. Why? Because they weren’t built to be sellable. Whether your goal is time and location freedom or a profitable exit, the steps are the same:
- Designing a scalable, self-sustaining company
- Building predictable, repeatable revenue
- Structuring your business to attract the right buyers
- Avoiding seller financing, earn-outs, and bad deals
- Understanding how buyers structure deals so you can negotiate from strength

Each week, Lani breaks down the realities of exiting a business, shares insights from top entrepreneurs and buyers, and gives you the tools to maximize your company’s value before you even think about selling.

If you want to own a business that works for you—not the other way around—Freedom to Exit will show you exactly how to get there.

About your host

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Lani Dickinson

Lani Dickinson is a former Fortune 175 CEO who left the corporate world to help business owners achieve what most never do—true freedom. Through STEALTH, she helps founders scale smarter, exit richer, and reclaim their lives by transforming their businesses into sellable, high-value assets.

Most entrepreneurs are trapped in a cycle of working too much and earning too little freedom. Lani’s expertise lies in building sustainable, scalable, and sellable businesses—giving founders the ability to step back, cash out, or create a legacy that lasts. If you’re ready to stop running your business and start owning your life, you’re in the right place.